Il piu' antico reperto audio-live dei GENESIS

[Rael Matrix]

Alla data non e' conosciuto nessun brano piu' "storico" di questo. [:D]

"Twilight Alehouse"

solo 22 secondi registrato al Roundhouse di Londra l'11 marzo 1970.
Il brano proviene da un documento filmato di David Bowie star della serata. [:D][:D][:D]

http://sigma.zshare.net/download/526d21 ... o%2001.mp3

[Hogweed]

Rael Matrix, come ci stupisci!!!!!!!

Ho visto che sei di torino, che ne dici di un pomeriggio assieme?
POi voglio incontrare anche high!!!![;)]

[Rael Matrix]

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Originally posted by Hogweed

Rael Matrix, come ci stupisci!!!!!!!

Ho visto che sei di torino, che ne dici di un pomeriggio assieme?
POi voglio incontrare anche high!!!![;)]

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Volentieri, ma sono un po' impegnato fino a settembre.
Non escludo prima. Ci sentiamo, comunque. [:)]

[Hogweed]

Se ti fa` piacere beccarti con un 19enne La mia mail sai dove reperirla![:)][;)]

Di che zona sei? se si puo` sapere...

CHiedo scusa per l` o.t.

[smiroldo]

e sisente pure bene! [:0] ma è tutto quel che resta di quella serata? [:(][:(][:(]

[AGGROVIGLIATO]

anche io sto TORINO...!!! VEDIAMOCI !!!
GENESIS sez. TORINO.

[Rael Matrix]

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Originally posted by smiroldo

e sisente pure bene! [:0] ma è tutto quel che resta di quella serata? [:(][:(][:(]

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C'e', ad esempio, la pubblicita' sul giornale:



Quel marzo del 70 fu abbastanza impegnato per i G. (ma all'epoca suonavano in giro piu' che potevano).

Marzo 1970

1 - al Farx Club Southall - da supporto ai Mott the Hoople (in quei giorni facevano il "filo" a Guy Stevens, produttore dei Mott the Hoople, per entrare nella sua scuderia. Ma Tony Stratton-Smith era "ON THE AIR"[;)])

2 - al Mistrale Club Beckenham


3 - al Ronnie Scott's Club Londra


11 - al The Roundhouse, Chalk Farm (filmati[:D]) - da supporto a David Bowie

14 - College Of Technology Watford - da supporto agli Atomic Rooster

17 - Ronnie Scott's Club Londra

22 - Farx Club Southall

24 - Ronnie Scott's Club Londra

[Raistlin Majere]

preso...[;)]

[Rael Matrix]

Dalle pagine THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO LIVE GENESIS SHOW

The Roundhouse, London, 11th March 1970

Speculation about prehistory is an inexact science! Nevertheless I will try to arrange the incomplete jigsaw pieces so as to present a plausible account of this mysterious recording. Apparently Genesis' PA system was not capable of making soundboard recordings until 1973. However this gig dubbed the "Atomic Sunrise Festival" at the London Roundhouse was headlined by David Bowie, increasing the likelihood of sound equipment with recording facilities. Verification that Bowie and Genesis played on this date comes in the form of a concert poster which advertised the festival program as follows:

Monday March 9th: Quintessence, Gypsy, Black Sabbath.
Tuesday March 10th: Marsha Hunt, Audience, Alexis Korner.
Wednesday March 11th: David Bowie (with 'The Hype'), Genesis
Thursday March 12th: Graham Bond, Clark Hutchinson Band, Juicy Lucy.
Friday March 13th: Brian Auger, Formerly Fat Harry, Hawkwind.
Saturday March 14th: Third Ear Band, Liverpool Scene, Kevin Ayers & The Whole World.
Sunday March 15th: Arthur Brown, Mighty Baby, Jackie Lomax & Heavy Jelly, Peter Straker & Hair Band, Principal Edwards Magic Theater.

Amazingly Genesis were actually captured on film at this concert! The film is silent, though a separate soundtrack is rumoured to exist, the work to sync sound and vision together not having been done. There appear to be quite a few independent reports of footage of various bands filmed at the London Roundhouse around 1970, including 35mm film of Hawkwind from April 1970 for which the soundtrack is said to be missing. VH1 have shown a clip of David Bowie live at the London Roundhouse, said to be recorded on 22nd February 1970, the day that Genesis were in London recording their first BBC session for the Night Ride program. As rumour has it, Yoko Ono was in the habbit of having some of the bands filmed at the Roundhouse around this era. Yoko Ono actually organized the "Atomic Sunrise Festival" opening the possibility that the master footage and soundtrack resides in the vaults of Apple Corporation. However it is claimed that a search of these archives during July and August of 2004 failed to uncover early Genesis material.

Glen Colson (formerly at Charisma) was shown black and white 8mm footage at the time he was putting together the first Archive box set. He remembers it being silent, about 20 minutes long, very good quality and says that Peter Gabriel was behaving like a young Mick Jagger! Anthony Phillips can be seen quite clearly in the footage, confirming the year as 1970. The dealer (known as Adrian Everett) wanted 20,000 pounds for the film and was "gently" persuaded (on threat of a law suit from Tony Smith) to abandon his ambitions. It is not certain whether Genesis were signed with Charisma at the time, but in any case an offical release is highly unlikely. Another account says that Ant can be seen playing the accordion on one song.

Turning to the subject of the missing soundtrack: Ant, Mike and Tony reportedly all remember the festival being pro recorded on 8 track equipment. A 20 second snippet introduced as live from the Roundhouse was aired by Earth News Radio, who's illustrious presenter Lew Irwin has kindly explained in an email:- "My source for out-of-print and bootlegged recordings was a company in Glendale, CA called Discontinued Records. They are no longer in business (the owner died), and I have no idea who acquired their collection (it was enormous). They did not actually sell the recordings, but made cassette copies for clients. I did not retain any of mine". Following up on this lead proved interesting as the somewhat chequered saga of DISContinued Records began to unfold.

Owner Les held one of the largest vinyl collections in the world, a massive 2.5 million used records at his outlet on South Victory Blvd, Burbank. For a fee Les would record a selection or an entire album for a customer and the scale of his activities attracted the attention of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) who then purchased tapes from DISContinued Records to use as incriminating evidence. On 14.Sep.81 Les was arrested and stock was seized in an RIAA raid on a charge of copyright infringement and a further more serious charge of grand theft on the basis that he had appropriated funds and property exceeding $25,000. A weak defense, mounted on the basis that Les thought he had the implied consent of the record companies, quickly collapsed. But the grand theft charge did not stick and he was instead found guilty of copyright infringement and petty theft, placed on probation, fined $7,500 and ordered to refrain from transferring recorded sounds without a license or consent.

DISContinued Records is mentioned in another court case relating to the manufacture and distribution of Elvis Presley records in 1980. California was known to be one of the major producers of bootleg records through the 1970s and 1980s and based on this evidence it looks as though this operation in Burbank played a large part in establishing this reputation. When Les died his son tried to continue the business, moving to nearby Glendale but eventually closed it down. Les's brother auctioned the stock and the proceeds were used to fund a Memorial Music Scholarship at California State University, Stanislaus which operates to this day; a fitting end to the story of an incredible music collection.

Sadly all this brings us no closer to uncovering the truth about the early Genesis recording, indeed the trail seems convincingly cold. A final word about the Roundhouse: it is fair to point out that considerable suspicion must attach to the date given since Ant Philips firmly believes Genesis were not professionally recorded live during his tenure with the band (though he does recall someone with a hand-held camera at one of the Roundhouse gigs). Although it would be neat to tie this radio show snippet with the film there is certainly room for doubt. The details of this recording remain a tantalizing mystery which I would love to solve!

David Dunnington